Is SDL Studio 2017 becoming obsolete? Thread poster: Evelyne Targe
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Hi there,
I bought SDL Studio 2017 six years ago and I was very happy with it. However I didn't bother to invest in the upgrade versions through the years.
Now I learn that I have until tomorrow to get an upgrading of SDL studio 2022.
I guess after that I will have to buy a full price brand new package of SDL Studio 2022 and it will be more expensive.
So I wonder what SDL Studio 2022 users think. is it worth the price?
How will SDL 2017 work with current clients no... See more Hi there,
I bought SDL Studio 2017 six years ago and I was very happy with it. However I didn't bother to invest in the upgrade versions through the years.
Now I learn that I have until tomorrow to get an upgrading of SDL studio 2022.
I guess after that I will have to buy a full price brand new package of SDL Studio 2022 and it will be more expensive.
So I wonder what SDL Studio 2022 users think. is it worth the price?
How will SDL 2017 work with current clients now? Will I miss opportunities if I don't invest in the upgrading now?
As I'm confused I decided to ask here.
Thanks in advance for offering your opinion. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Samuel Murray 
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| End of life? | Sep 29, 2022 |
From their website:
"The upgrade path for Trados Studio 2017, and related upgrade pricing, will close on 30 September 2022."
and
"Our software release policy is to support two versions of Trados Studio prior to the current version. We occasionally extend the life of Trados Studio versions beyond the terms of this policy..."
Trados products have an "end of life" after which they are no longer "supported". I'm not sure when SDL or RWS decided that products that have ... See more From their website:
"The upgrade path for Trados Studio 2017, and related upgrade pricing, will close on 30 September 2022."
and
"Our software release policy is to support two versions of Trados Studio prior to the current version. We occasionally extend the life of Trados Studio versions beyond the terms of this policy..."
Trados products have an "end of life" after which they are no longer "supported". I'm not sure when SDL or RWS decided that products that have reached their end of life can also no longer be upgraded -- it may be a new thing or it may be something that SDL has done in the past already. I do know that the upgrade options always included 2 or 3 previous versions only.
The fact that there is a version "2022" (instead of a 2021 service pack 2) represents a bit of sleight of hand on the part of Trados, as they can now claim that version 2017 is "more than 2 versions prior to the current version". (That said, having an upgrade path offered to one is, itself, not a privilege.)
Here's what was new in...
Trados 2019: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofz6ktNBjpk
Trados 2021: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nultn6qpy1o
Also Trados 2021: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QE_ptd1k7M&t=4s
I could not find a YouTube video showing the new features of Trados 2022, but there is an embedded video here:
https://www.trados.com/products/trados-studio/whats-new-studio-2022.html
Evelyne Targe wrote:
How will SDL 2017 work with current clients now? Will I miss opportunities if I don't invest in the upgrading now?
As far as I know, the file format is the same as it was in 2009.
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| | | | | A few small clarifications | Sep 29, 2022 |
Samuel Murray wrote:
Trados products have an "end of life" after which they are no longer "supported". I'm not sure when SDL or RWS decided that products that have reached their end of life can also no longer be upgraded -- it may be a new thing or it may be something that SDL has done in the past already. I do know that the upgrade options always included 2 or 3 previous versions only.
Nothing new... there has always been an end of life policy at Trados. You can find a KB article here covering more recent years: https://gateway.sdl.com/apex/communityknowledge?articleName=000002629
Samuel Murray wrote:
The fact that there is a version "2022" (instead of a 2021 service pack 2) represents a bit of sleight of hand on the part of Trados, as they can now claim that version 2017 is "more than 2 versions prior to the current version". (That said, having an upgrade path offered to one is, itself, not a privilege.)
I don't really understand this comment for two reasons. First there was a service pack 2 for 2021 - https://gateway.sdl.com/apex/communityknowledge?articleName=CUs-Studio2021SR2
Secondly there is no rule for service packs at all. In the perfect world there would not be any!
| | | | Samuel Murray
Netherlands
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RWS Community wrote: Samuel Murray wrote:
The fact that there is a version "2022" (instead of a 2021 service pack 2) represents a bit of sleight of hand... First there was a service pack 2 for 2021. Secondly there is no rule for service packs at all. In the perfect world there would not be any!
Thanks for the correction -- I could not find information on service pack 2 when I did research for my post. I just meant that it version 2022 represents an interruption in the trend of a new version every two years (and service packs are not just bug fixes; they do often contain new features), and version 2022's new features seemed a bit lackluster. This is not meant as an insult to the developers (there appears to have been quite a lot of improvements under the hood).
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Natalie
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Moderator of this forum SITE LOCALIZER | Who told you about 2017? | Sep 29, 2022 |
Evelyne Targe wrote:
I bought SDL Studio 2017 six years ago and I was very happy with it. However I didn't bother to invest in the upgrade versions through the years.
Now I learn that I have until tomorrow to get an upgrading of SDL studio 2022.
Hi Evelyne, who has told you about 2017? I also am a happy user of 2017 version; the message from RWS of 08.08.2022 reads:
Trados Studio 2014 and earlier – License resets no longer available from 30 September 2022
We are informing you that, from 30 September 2022, license resets will no longer be available for Trados Studio 2014, 2011, 2009 and 2007.
If you have any questions, please contact your Account Manager or contact our Customer Experience Team via the Live Chat.
| | | | Evelyne Targe
France
Local time: 20:00
English to French
TOPIC STARTER | SDL commercial mail | Sep 29, 2022 |
[quote]Natalie wrote:
Hi Evelyne, who has told you about 2017? I also am a happy user of 2017 version; the message from RWS of 08.08.2022 reads:
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Hi Natalie,
I received a commercial mail from SDL yesterday and it says that after the 30th of September, users of SDL Trados 2017 won't be able to benefit from upgrading prices. The wording is ambiguous but I understood that I could no longer upgrade my current CAT tool if I pass the chance of doing so within the next 24 hours.
I understand that any professional needs to invest in softwares but I didn't plan to do so this month. I must buy a new computer soon and I'm worried I can't reinstall SDL 2017 for instance. This is very tricky.
I get that for SDL main purpose is to convince me to buy their new product but I don't want to feel pressure to do so if I can wait for a while even if I know I will eventually do that.
| | | | Samuel Murray
Netherlands
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Natalie wrote:
The message from RWS of 08.08.2022 reads:
Trados Studio 2014 and earlier – License resets no longer available from 30 September 2022
The license reset issue is entirely separate from the upgrade availability issue. (I initially made that mistake, too, but then edited my post.)
| | | | | Pricing benefit only... | Sep 29, 2022 |
Evelyne Targe wrote:
I received a commercial mail from SDL yesterday and it says that after the 30th of September, users of SDL Trados 2017 won't be able to benefit from upgrading prices. The wording is ambiguous but I understood that I could no longer upgrade my current CAT tool if I pass the chance of doing so within the next 24 hours.
I have not seen the emails, but based on your wording I would say this refers to the ability to upgrade as opposed to purchasing a new licence. This is pretty normal and happens with all versions sooner or later. So to be clear, you can upgrade from 2017 to 2022 at a lower price than a full licence until the end of this month. After that you would not be able to upgrade and would have to purchase a new licence.
I checked with our teams and this notice was apparently sent out initially on the 9th August and since then we have sent out a further four emails to make sure all users were aware. I also think the discount got better with each email! The last one a week or so ago offered a 30% discount I think.
So you are correct in that you cannot upgrade from 2017 (or earlier). You can only purchase a new licence from the 1st October.
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Evelyne Targe
France
Local time: 20:00
English to French
TOPIC STARTER | Is SDL Studio 2017 becoming obsolete? | Sep 29, 2022 |
Samuel Murray wrote: Natalie wrote:
The message from RWS of 08.08.2022 reads:
Trados Studio 2014 and earlier – License resets no longer available from 30 September 2022 The license reset issue is entirely separate from the upgrade availability issue. (I initially made that mistake, too, but then edited my post.)
Thank you Samuel for clarifying this. It's a relief so far to know that I can reset SDL 2017.
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RWS Community wrote:
I checked with our teams and this notice was apparently sent out initially on the 9th August and since then we have sent out a further four emails to make sure all users were aware. I also think the discount got better with each email! The last one a week or so ago offered a 30% discount I think.
So you are correct in that you cannot upgrade from 2017 (or earlier). You can only purchase a new licence from the 1st October.
Does this apply to every customer? I happened to see this post by chance but did not receive the mails. Where do I find this information online on your website?
| | | | Stepan Konev
Russian Federation
Local time: 21:00
English to Russian
| Trados Store | Sep 29, 2022 |
Ilka Nahmmacher wrote:
Where do I find this information online on your website? Try this. Still clickable.
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| | | | Samuel Murray
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| The prices are... | Sep 29, 2022 |
Stepan Konev wrote: Try this. Still clickable.
FWIW, the cost of upgrading to Trados Freelance Plus 2022 from...
2017 non-Plus: EUR 348
2017 Plus: EUR 243
2019 non-Plus: EUR 315
2019 Plus: EUR 213
2021 non-Plus: EUR 252
2021 Plus: EUR 147
So, for the OP it would be either EUR 348 or EUR 243. Buying Trados 2022 Plus out of the box costs between EUR 555 and EUR 750, depending on when you buy it.
PS. I haven't tried the cloud feature, but I've heard relatively good things about it from normally critical translators.
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Stepan Konev
Russian Federation
Local time: 21:00
English to Russian
| 2017 to 2022 | Sep 29, 2022 |
Ah, right, EUR243 for upgrading from one 2017 license to one 2022 license, or EUR348 for upgrading from one 2017 license to two 2022 licenses. My version is 2021 Plus that is why it offers the upgrade for EUR147.
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