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It's “printing tissue paper” - from the industry people's glossary Apr 30, 2014

wherestip wrote:

David Lin wrote:

拷贝纸,是一种生产难度相当高的高级文化工业用纸,该产品的技术特性主要为:具有较高的物理强度,优良的均匀度及透明度,及良好的表面性质,细腻、平整、光滑、无泡泡沙、良好的适印性.

怎样理解判断是否是一张真正优良的拷贝纸?其实很简单,第一检查其外观是否平整、细腻,均一的透光性(即匀度);第二检查其物理强度性能,表明撕裂度高,表明该张拷贝纸的透明度越高,表明其品质越高。通常优良的拷贝纸,以17g/m2的拷贝纸为例,通常可覆盖达到6-8层,极其优良的达到12层。所以,叫做仿拷贝纸,实则为薄页纸。

这个链结有详细介绍。
http://baike.baidu.com/view/235271.htm


Thanks, David.

Glassine paper? High quality tissue paper? Transparent tracing paper? Translucent vellum paper?>




印刷拷贝纸的英文常用表达为:printing tissue paper, 很多不熟悉的人一般会直面的翻译成printing copy paper,这样就会造成关键词的错误,找不到自己需要的东西。

印刷拷贝纸printing tissue paper的用途非常广泛,作为一种环保的高档绿色包装材料,随着国内拷贝纸 tissue paper 的造纸,印刷生产技术的提供,越来越多的被外国客户所青睐,出口贸易额一直处于递增状态。多用于生活用纸卷纸包装,红酒包装,化妆品包装,食品包装,水果包装等高档商品的包装。

浩天纸业二十多年来一直专注于拷贝纸印刷,公司位于东莞重镇虎门,地理位置优越,拥有丰富的物流交通服务网。公司拥有进口全套印刷设备、纸张整理流水线。可印刷14-60克各种薄型类纸张,并进行深加工,品种丰富供客户选择。由于产品质量优良,环保时尚,产品远销日本、美国、西欧等国,作为当今优秀内包材,深受国内外客户好评。

http://www.zghaotian.com/news_detail/newsId=d7727117-4136-40b6-93ce-65807490ab63.html


 
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The PDF file Apr 30, 2014

I have to print out a copy to make sure, and to rule out the subjective probability.

Well, if that is not an arcane creation of Dan Brown, then, ... an Other Myth

Of course, that is indeed the incredible and genuine history of Theatre Royal; a delightful one as well.


[Edited at 2014-04-30 21:35 GMT]


 
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Tissue paper Apr 30, 2014

David Lin wrote:

wherestip wrote:

David Lin wrote:

拷贝纸,是一种生产难度相当高的高级文化工业用纸,该产品的技术特性主要为:具有较高的物理强度,优良的均匀度及透明度,及良好的表面性质,细腻、平整、光滑、无泡泡沙、良好的适印性.

怎样理解判断是否是一张真正优良的拷贝纸?其实很简单,第一检查其外观是否平整、细腻,均一的透光性(即匀度);第二检查其物理强度性能,表明撕裂度高,表明该张拷贝纸的透明度越高,表明其品质越高。通常优良的拷贝纸,以17g/m2的拷贝纸为例,通常可覆盖达到6-8层,极其优良的达到12层。所以,叫做仿拷贝纸,实则为薄页纸。

这个链结有详细介绍。
http://baike.baidu.com/view/235271.htm


Thanks, David.

Glassine paper? High quality tissue paper? Transparent tracing paper? Translucent vellum paper?




印刷拷贝纸的英文常用表达为:printing tissue paper, 很多不熟悉的人一般会直面的翻译成printing copy paper,这样就会造成关键词的错误,找不到自己需要的东西。

印刷拷贝纸printing tissue paper的用途非常广泛,作为一种环保的高档绿色包装材料,随着国内拷贝纸 tissue paper 的造纸,印刷生产技术的提供,越来越多的被外国客户所青睐,出口贸易额一直处于递增状态。多用于生活用纸卷纸包装,红酒包装,化妆品包装,食品包装,水果包装等高档商品的包装。

浩天纸业二十多年来一直专注于拷贝纸印刷,公司位于东莞重镇虎门,地理位置优越,拥有丰富的物流交通服务网。公司拥有进口全套印刷设备、纸张整理流水线。可印刷14-60克各种薄型类纸张,并进行深加工,品种丰富供客户选择。由于产品质量优良,环保时尚,产品远销日本、美国、西欧等国,作为当今优秀内包材,深受国内外客户好评。

http://www.zghaotian.com/news_detail/newsId=d7727117-4136-40b6-93ce-65807490ab63.html


David,

Thanks again.

The terminology is so confusing. They call it "printing tissue paper", yet use it for wrapping fruit and cosmetics.

I tell ya, the Chinese text in that Baidu page was written so poorly, I could hardly follow what it's trying to say. I really feel for you guys, especially the ones who have to do Chinese-to-English translation on a regular basis.


 
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很庆幸 Apr 30, 2014

。。。不是在吃饭喝水时读到 “随俗前的响应”...

David, 趁 没有笑倒之 际慌忙表示三下感谢!

David Lin wrote: 入乡随俗前的响应

可能 ‘当时’ 也会有些人以为:

摩登 = 摩憎(再)登陆(中国)
芭蕾 = 芭蕉花蕾
卡通 = 卡车通道
拷贝 = 烤饼型贝殼

逻辑 = (公安)巡逻报告专辑
咖啡 = 咖里味吗啡 (有些病人较喜欢)
可乐 = (可能因)太快乐变堕落
香槟 = 香蕉加槟榔一起吃 (会好味一点吗?)

巧克力 = 碰巧练到克服苦闷的神力
阿斯匹林 = 阿尔比斯山无可匹敌的森林
麦克风 = 来自麦田无法克制的大风
沙发 = 因沙漠引发的危机

乒乓 = 你写错字了,应该是 ‘兵’,将两个字重叠合并才对。
夹克 = 夹著大腿暂时克服去厕所的急需
摩托车 = 有按摩承托手部功能的缝衣车

拜拜 = 拜天拜地(要结婚了吗?- 四目交投殷切地问)

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一笑。;)


 
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tissue paper is basically 厕纸/卫生纸 Apr 30, 2014

wherestip wrote:

David Lin wrote:

wherestip wrote:

David Lin wrote:

拷贝纸,是一种生产难度相当高的高级文化工业用纸,该产品的技术特性主要为:具有较高的物理强度,优良的均匀度及透明度,及良好的表面性质,细腻、平整、光滑、无泡泡沙、良好的适印性.

怎样理解判断是否是一张真正优良的拷贝纸?其实很简单,第一检查其外观是否平整、细腻,均一的透光性(即匀度);第二检查其物理强度性能,表明撕裂度高,表明该张拷贝纸的透明度越高,表明其品质越高。通常优良的拷贝纸,以17g/m2的拷贝纸为例,通常可覆盖达到6-8层,极其优良的达到12层。所以,叫做仿拷贝纸,实则为薄页纸。

这个链结有详细介绍。
http://baike.baidu.com/view/235271.htm


Thanks, David.

Glassine paper? High quality tissue paper? Transparent tracing paper? Translucent vellum paper?



印刷拷贝纸的英文常用表达为:printing tissue paper, 很多不熟悉的人一般会直面的翻译成printing copy paper,这样就会造成关键词的错误,找不到自己需要的东西。

印刷拷贝纸printing tissue paper的用途非常广泛,作为一种环保的高档绿色包装材料,随着国内拷贝纸 tissue paper 的造纸,印刷生产技术的提供,越来越多的被外国客户所青睐,出口贸易额一直处于递增状态。多用于生活用纸卷纸包装,红酒包装,化妆品包装,食品包装,水果包装等高档商品的包装。

浩天纸业二十多年来一直专注于拷贝纸印刷,公司位于东莞重镇虎门,地理位置优越,拥有丰富的物流交通服务网。公司拥有进口全套印刷设备、纸张整理流水线。可印刷14-60克各种薄型类纸张,并进行深加工,品种丰富供客户选择。由于产品质量优良,环保时尚,产品远销日本、美国、西欧等国,作为当今优秀内包材,深受国内外客户好评。

http://www.zghaotian.com/news_detail/newsId=d7727117-4136-40b6-93ce-65807490ab63.html


David,

Thanks again.

The terminology is so confusing. They call it "printing tissue paper", yet use it for wrapping fruit and cosmetics.

I tell ya, the Chinese text in that Baidu page was written so poorly, I could hardly follow what it's trying to say. I really feel for you guys, especially the ones who have to do Chinese-to-English translation on a regular basis.


I know.

I guess if you want to communicate with the industry people in China, you've no other choice but to use their terminology (e.g. placing order). I am sure there must be other 'proper' English names for 拷贝纸 because “tissue paper” on both sides of the Atlantic means toilet roll. It is not for printing purpose, and definitely not for wrapping fruits, cosmetics or shoes. LOL.

Speaking about shoes, you might know the kind of paper that's used to wrap new shoes in the shoe box. Moreover, there's the thin paper that is used to wrap perfume bottles.

And for printing purpose I guess it's a similar kind of thin 拷贝纸。


 
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manifold paper Apr 30, 2014



http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/manifold%20paper


manifold paper: a lightweight paper used with carbon paper to produce multiple copies



This might be what Fargoer was referring to originally?


 
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onion skin paper Apr 30, 2014

http://www.desktopsupplies.com/paperexplained.html



SPECIALTY PAPERS: These include rice paper and the ultra-thin onion skin paper, also known as tissue paper.




http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-onionskin-paper.htm



The weight of onion skin paper is very light; a stack of 500 sheets of bond size weighs around 9 pounds (4 kilograms), depending on the manufacturer. Bond size is 17 inches by 22 inches (43 by 56 centimeters), meaning that it is double the size of a standard letter sized sheet. The light weight of onion skin paper makes it ideal for situations where large amounts of records are being generated, but still need to be kept manageable. For this reason, it is also often used to make duplicates, carbon copies, and records of official correspondence. While the official version may be sent out on regular paper, the records are kept compact on this specialty paper.



http://blog.thepapermillstore.com/onion-skin-paper-peeling-away-the-mystery/


 
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lightweight offset paper, aka Bible paper Apr 30, 2014



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_paper

The bible paper is a thin grade of paper used for printing books which have a large number of pages. Technically it is called lightweight offset paper and is a type of woodfree uncoated paper.

It is used for making Bibles, encyclopedias and dictionaries; as well as some fiction books such as the ones published by the Bibliothèque de la Pléiade. This paper grade often contains cotton or linen fibres to increase its strength despite its thinness.



This type of printing paper seems to be a little thicker than manifold paper; but it might also be a good thing to know about.


[Edited at 2014-04-30 21:37 GMT]


 
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thefreedictionary definition Apr 30, 2014

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/manifold%20paper



manifold paper [′man·ə‚fōld ‚pā·pər]
(materials)
An extremely thin paper used for making duplicate copies, such as onionskin paper.



 
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Yup, sounds right Apr 30, 2014

http://desktoppub.about.com/od/glossary/g/Manifold-Paper.htm



Manifold Paper
By Jacci Howard Bear

Definition:

A lightweight, dense and durable paper with a basic size of 17" x 22", manifold paper normally has an unglazed finish. However, manifold paper also comes in glazed and cockle finishes.

Typically made from wood or rags, manifold paper comes in many colors and is usually translucent, thin, and crisp. It may be referred to as tissue paper or onionskin paper.

Examples: Interleaved with carbon paper for manifold or carbon sets for typing duplicate copies, manifold paper is also used for map overlays.



 
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You spot on! Apr 30, 2014

wherestip wrote:

http://desktoppub.about.com/od/glossary/g/Manifold-Paper.htm



Manifold Paper
By Jacci Howard Bear

Definition:

A lightweight, dense and durable paper with a basic size of 17" x 22", manifold paper normally has an unglazed finish. However, manifold paper also comes in glazed and cockle finishes.

Typically made from wood or rags, manifold paper comes in many colors and is usually translucent, thin, and crisp. It may be referred to as tissue paper or onionskin paper.

Examples: Interleaved with carbon paper for manifold or carbon sets for typing duplicate copies, manifold paper is also used for map overlays.



With your excellent research result, I can now recall my Printer friend told me ages ago about Bible paper 圣经纸 and onionskin paper as the thinnest papers commercial printers use to publish works for clients.

Bible paper is easily available for one to see on a daily or weekly basis coz it's used for printing bibles. It's a little hard for us to see onionskin paper with our naked eyes though but it's available in your link.

I never recall my Printer friend used "tissue paper" for onionskin 洋葱皮 though.

Well done, Steve!


 
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超越时空 Apr 30, 2014

这几天讨论了这么多超越时间的问题,突然读到一段有关 ”时间“ 的描述,与大家分享一下:

“西方的神学之父圣奥古斯丁(St Augustine)说过:「时间是什么?我本来似乎还知道;但一被问及,就反而什么都不知道了。」

”有太多方法可以用来定义时间,以致没有一种是完全可靠的。在愈来愈深的皱纹里,在磨损漫漶的
字碑里,在对过去的恋栈及对未来的惶恐里,几乎都有时间的遗迹。“


 
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Business transformations over time May 1, 2014

Thanks, David.

It used to be we had to fill out these internal manifold business forms to submit to other functions of the company, such as travel expense reports that go to accounting, purchase requisitions that go to purchasing, etc.. As more and more of these operations changed to being done via the company intranet, the stacks and stacks of internal forms that crammed the supply cabinets slowly but surely disappeared.

It never occurred to me that the paper used f
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Thanks, David.

It used to be we had to fill out these internal manifold business forms to submit to other functions of the company, such as travel expense reports that go to accounting, purchase requisitions that go to purchasing, etc.. As more and more of these operations changed to being done via the company intranet, the stacks and stacks of internal forms that crammed the supply cabinets slowly but surely disappeared.

It never occurred to me that the paper used for these forms was called “manifold paper” though.
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是的 May 1, 2014

wherestip wrote:




http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/manifold%20paper


manifold paper: a lightweight paper used with carbon paper to produce multiple copies



This might be what Fargoer was referring to originally?


可令我困惑的是:无论是“tissue paper” 还是 “manifold paper” 都好像与“拷贝”不搭界。


 
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有趣的现象 May 1, 2014

wherestip wrote:




http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/manifold%20paper


manifold paper: a lightweight paper used with carbon paper to produce multiple copies



This might be what Fargoer was referring to originally?


我好像有点明白了。脑袋得拐个弯才行。

这是一种比较少见的造字方法。“copy“ 音译为”拷贝“ 后,人们利用”拷贝“这个音译外来词来意译另一个外术语”manifold paper" ,从而造成了一个音译与意译结合的派生词“拷贝纸”。这至少说明了一件事,即在“拷贝纸”这个词产生时,“拷贝”一词早已“随俗”了。

谢谢 wherestip 提供的资料!

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[Edited at 2014-05-01 02:52 GMT]


 
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