Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

gloria gentle running deer may peeler

Spanish translation:

Gloria "Dócil Ciervo Corredor" May Peeler

Added to glossary by Víctor Zamorano
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English term

Gloria Gentle Running Deer May Peeler

English to Spanish Social Sciences Names (personal, company) Native American / Indian names
How are translators handling Native American / Indian names. Are they being translated, or treated as a proper noun and left untranslated?
Some examples from an oral history:
Gloria Gentle Running Deer May Peeler
Carlina Two Feathers Carter
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Jul 5, 2022 08:12: Víctor Zamorano Created KOG entry

Discussion

Víctor Zamorano Jun 22, 2022:
Para profundizar en el tema He leído esto por encima, me parece lo que necesitas para responder tu pregunta: https://www.erudit.org/en/journals/meta/2016-v61-n3-meta0299... en especial parr. 47 y 48.

Dándole otra vuelta, y salvo condiciones muy particulares en las que queramos llevar al extremo el respeto transcultural, pienso que el antropónimo indígena descriptivo tiene vocación de ser transmitido a los demás (y que estos lo entiendan), está en las antípodas del "nombre interior" o secreto. Por ello, entre Tȟašúŋke Witk - Crazy Horse ("His-Horse-Is-Crazy", de hecho) y Caballo Loco creo que me quedaría con el último.
Víctor Zamorano Jun 22, 2022:
Depende del contexto, supongo Sobre si hay una convención respecto a cómo se tratan los nombres de la tradición nativa americana; seguramente, pero yo no la conozco.
Lo cierto es que el nombre en inglés ya es, en cierto sentido, una traducción. Y no se hace siempre (ej. Pocahontas). De hecho, parece que es una cosa originada en las Guerras Sioux y como recurso publicitario de Buffalo Bill (eso dice aquí, https://linguistics.stackexchange.com/questions/9772/why-are...
Sobre la pertinencia de traducir o no, supongo que depende del contexto. ¿Es un texto literario o un documento legal, o un texto especializado en ese tema? ¿Aparecen muchos nombres, el mismo muchas veces? ¿Va dirigido a una audiencia generalista?
Juan Jacob Jun 21, 2022:
Sitting Bull siempre ha sido Toro Sentado y todos los demás nombres se han traducido.

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Gloria "Dócil Ciervo Corredor" May Peeler

Yo entiendo, con Taña, que la persona se llama en la tradición no nativa Gloria (May de segundo nombre?) Peeler. Me inclino por Gentle=Dócil porque refiere a un animal, pero el matiz es inadivinable...

Respecto a traducir el nombre de la tradición nativa, no sé si deberñias o no, ver Comments.
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agree Konstantinos Mazanis
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agree Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
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agree Esther Vidal : Yo no soy partidaria de traducir los nombres propios.
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1. I absolutely disagree with other colleagues that the names should be translated. As far as I understand "Gloria Peeler" is the registered birth name and, therefore, as your name, regardless of language, would not change.

2. "Gentle Running Deer", was the name given to Gloria Peeler as part of the Native American tradition https://www.ethnictechnologies.com/blog/2018/10/2/native-ame...

Native Americans at Springfield flag-raising ceremony show ...https://www.masslive.com/news/2016/09/native_americans_at_sp...
10 Sept 2016 — Mayoral aide Darryl Moss presented it to Gloria "Gentle Running Deer" Peeler, a council chairperson and host of a weekly Native American ...
NOTE: Voices of Resilience: The Intersection of Women on the Move curator Janine Fondon gathers with other women portraying historical figures significant in winning the right to vote for women. Pictured here are Maria Furlow- portraying Ida B. Wells; Janine Fondon – portraying Josephine St. Pierre Ruffin; Bonnie Weaver Cisero – portraying Sojourner Truth; Aprell Munford – portraying Mary Church Terrell; Loretta Peters (co-director PAHMUSA) – portraying Angelina Weld Grimke; and **Gentle Running Deer (Gloria Peeler)**- portraying Native American elder.


Stories Uncovered: Black Women and the Vote - Springfield https://springfieldmuseums.org/blog/stories-uncovered-black-...
30 Sept 2020 — To uncover the complete story of women's suffrage in America, ... and Gentle Running Deer (Gloria Peeler)- portraying Native American elder.

Native American Flag Raising at City Hall - Springfield-MA.gov
https://www.springfield-ma.gov/cos/news-story?tx_news_pi1[ac...
Native American Flag Raising at City Hall
Tuesday, September 19, 2017
The Native-American Tribal Council of Western Massachusetts held their annual flag raising at City Hall this past Saturday. Mayor Domenic J. Sarno read a proclamation declaring the month of September as Native American Heritage Month in the City of Springfield. He was joined by retired State Representative Ben Swan and Malo Brown, aide to State Representative Bud Williams, who presented Gentle Running Deer with a citation honoring her 80th birthday.

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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/whats-in-name/201501...

Native Americans have a fluid naming tradition—i.e., they can earn new names. A Native American wise woman explained this concept to me with nature imagery. Some people are like lakes; they change very little during their lifetimes. Others are like rivers that may change dramatically from their small beginnings to become mighty rivers that travel all the way to the sea. Native American children are given names that suit their personalities. If a name is given and proves to be a bad fit, the child’s name is changed. At adolescence, the given name may be changed again. As the adult progresses through life, new names can be awarded. Family and society award the new names, which provide the individual with a strong social bond to community as well as family. This naming tradition helps to motivate the individual to grow throughout life.

A Native American name can reflect your personality, what you accomplish, or what happens to you. The name Dancing Wind sounds beautiful to our ears, but Native Americans know that the dancing wind is an image for the tornado. This name warns of a volatile, angry disposition. It serves as a warning to others as well as an incentive to Dancing Wind to earn a new name. The name Bear is a common name like John. If the name is changed to Wounded Bear, society knows the individual is suffering and needs special care. If an individual accomplishes great things, a new name like “Eagle Eye” may be given to recognize the individual’s clear-sighted perception as well as a special connection between heaven and earth, i.e., with the spiritual world. The Native American naming tradition inspires the individual to strive to be better, to heal, and to evolve. The bond between society and the individual is very personal.
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