airmailrpl Sep 24, 2015:

a resposta da joalheira shanks and bales => hastes (lateral do aro)..contra-argolas

Bail: contra-argola
Shank: haste (lateral do aro)

perguntei a uma joalheira

Danik 2014 Sep 24, 2015:

No entanto, "shanks and bales" também é usado na descrição de um anel com pedra liso e redondo. Vide o meu link inglês com imagem da respectiva jóia, cuja transcrição coloco em seguida:
"Modern and feminine, this rhodium-plated ring in a fresh color is ideal for everyday wear. It displays a purple crystal in a softened square shape and plain metal shanks and bales for a trendy look." Cadê a argola ou a contra-argola?
Não se trata de defender a minha resposta, a discussão não existe para isso, mas a esta altura eu também quero saber o que são esses "shanks and bales".

Mario Freitas Sep 24, 2015:

Eu ainda diria "elos" em vez de "aros", "argolas" e outros genéricos. Aros e argolas podem ser até a peça principal (p. ex. brinco de argola). Os elos são peças especificamente de união, que é o significado de "bales" em uma peça de joalheria.

airmailrpl Sep 24, 2015:

resposta .. a resposta da joalheira está postada abaixo

airmailrpl Sep 24, 2015:

I sent.. I sent the question to a Joalheira em São Paulo - vamos ver o que ela fala.

Mario Freitas Sep 23, 2015:

So this could be "elos e aros", meaning that even those parts are made of the same precious metal as the jewel itself.

Mario Freitas Sep 23, 2015:

It's curious, The definitions are correct, Robert, only the translated word is wrong. Bail is actually a "fiança" if you're talking about "putting up a bail" (bank transaction), and shank could be the "canela" of your leg or of a machine's leg. Neither is correct for jewelry, of course. This is the Google world.

airmailrpl Sep 23, 2015:

shank and bale (bail) Shank => Canela ??

bale => Bail => Conector (I doubt very seriously that it is called a "fiança" even though the dictionary says so

Bail / Fiança
Um elemento metálico para acabamento joalheiro,
que conecta um pingente de um colar ou pulseira.

Shank / Canela
A porção de um anel que envolve o dedo, em que
as pedras estão definidas.
http://www.crebi.com/materia/dicionario_joialheiro_port.pdf

airmailrpl Sep 23, 2015:

Bail (jewelry) Bail (jewelry)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A bail (also spelled "bale") is a component of certain types of jewelry, mostly necklaces, that is used to attach a pendant or stone.[1] The bail is normally placed in the center of the necklace where the pendant hangs.

Some bails are made so a pendant can be attached after the necklace production is completed. This way, a necklace design can be mass-produced for multiple companies and the pendants can be attached after the necklaces are shipped to them.

A classic bail allows the chain to pass through and is connected by a ring to the pendant. Bails are a frequently pre-made component used on an otherwise handmade piece of jewelry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bail_(jewelry)

airmailrpl Sep 23, 2015:

bale Bales for Jewelry Making Pendant Beading Bails | eBay
www.ebay.com › ... › Jewelry Findings › Connectors
A bale (bail) is a finding that attaches a pendant to a necklace or other jewelry. ... some have mounts to glue the pendant to, and some attach to a ring on the ...