Mar 28, 2008 18:56
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English term
little circular holes in which water collects in a rock
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See this photo of a rock with little circular holes in which water collects. What are these holes called? Not grooves please, becuase I have that word as a translation for another item:-)
See this photo of a rock with little circular holes in which water collects. What are these holes called? Not grooves please, becuase I have that word as a translation for another item:-)
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| 4 +1 | pits, pitting, solution pit, kamenitza |
juvera
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| 5 +1 | potholes |
David Russi
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| 3 +2 | depressions |
Marie-Hélène Hayles
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| 5 | rock clefts |
Cristy Mercader
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| 5 | Cupules |
LachlanHunter
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| 5 -1 | Rock pools |
Gary D
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| 3 | rock pores |
Michael Barnett
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| 3 | rockholes |
Cynthia Plac (X)
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| 2 | drip holes |
Rachel Fell
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Change log
Apr 1, 2008 12:46: Steffen Walter changed "Field (write-in)" from "geology" to "(none)"
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pits, pitting, solution pit, kamenitza
"...small-scale solution represented by solution pits of several millimetres to a centimetre in diameter and up to several millimetres deep. Some of these pits show rounded, smooth edges, whereas others have irregular and sharp edges
These solution pits are termed "kamenitzas" and in modern environments generally range from millimetres to several decimetres or even metres in diameter, and from millimetres to tens of centimetres in depth.
Their formation is attributed to water collecting in tiny, previously existing hollows (due to slight irregularities of the surface), and enlargement of these hollows by solution."
They are round to oval with flat bottoms and commonly have steep sides: the edges may be sharp because of solution by free-flowing water (Sweeting, 1973). They are known
from all climatic regions.
The size of these features depends on a number of factors such as vegetation cover, slope of the surface, climate, different chemical reactions, lithology and texture of the rock, and the availability of water.
http://strata.geol.sc.edu/PDF-Files/IchnoGlossofungites/SilD...
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You may see rock covered with small circular holes. This is called "pitting" and is caused by mild acid in the water dissolving the rock.
www.pc.gc.ca/pn-np/on/bruce/natcul/natcul1_E.asp
These solution pits are termed "kamenitzas" and in modern environments generally range from millimetres to several decimetres or even metres in diameter, and from millimetres to tens of centimetres in depth.
Their formation is attributed to water collecting in tiny, previously existing hollows (due to slight irregularities of the surface), and enlargement of these hollows by solution."
They are round to oval with flat bottoms and commonly have steep sides: the edges may be sharp because of solution by free-flowing water (Sweeting, 1973). They are known
from all climatic regions.
The size of these features depends on a number of factors such as vegetation cover, slope of the surface, climate, different chemical reactions, lithology and texture of the rock, and the availability of water.
http://strata.geol.sc.edu/PDF-Files/IchnoGlossofungites/SilD...
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You may see rock covered with small circular holes. This is called "pitting" and is caused by mild acid in the water dissolving the rock.
www.pc.gc.ca/pn-np/on/bruce/natcul/natcul1_E.asp
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "This seems to fit my context best, ta to all:-)"
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rock pores
Geyser Life in Rock Pores
based on National Science Foundation report
http://www.astrobio.net/news/modules.php?op=modload&name=New...
based on National Science Foundation report
http://www.astrobio.net/news/modules.php?op=modload&name=New...
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rockholes
pls see the reference provided.
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another glossary reference:
http://home.mira.net/~gnb/caving/glossary/R.html
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In this glossary it is hyphenated: rock-hole
http://mc2.vicnet.net.au/home/glossar/web/glossary.html
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"Rock-holes, another unusual feature of the Bynguano Ranges, were created by swirling torrents of water gouging out circular holes like wells into the rock surfaces."
taken from:
http://www.teachingheritage.nsw.edu.au/d_reshaping/wd1_ssenv...
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An ecological reference to rock holes:
http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/publications/p02317aa.pdf/Rock_hol...
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another glossary reference:
http://home.mira.net/~gnb/caving/glossary/R.html
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In this glossary it is hyphenated: rock-hole
http://mc2.vicnet.net.au/home/glossar/web/glossary.html
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"Rock-holes, another unusual feature of the Bynguano Ranges, were created by swirling torrents of water gouging out circular holes like wells into the rock surfaces."
taken from:
http://www.teachingheritage.nsw.edu.au/d_reshaping/wd1_ssenv...
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An ecological reference to rock holes:
http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/publications/p02317aa.pdf/Rock_hol...
Reference:
Peer comment(s):
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David Russi
: Looks like in Australia they may call them rock-holes, certainly potholes in US. Well. it looks like all your references are from AU domains.
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: ), yes certainly. Fascinating on any side of the planet!
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Marie-Hélène Hayles
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depressions
I certainly wouldn't call them potholes - that brings to mind huge deep holes that people go exploring in (broken road surfaces obviously being out of context here). I'd suggest depressions. But I'm not a geologist, hence the CR 3.
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From wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pothole:
Pothole (northern Britain) is also a term for a deep cave[1]; from this sense, the derivation potholing is a synonym for caving and a potholer is a caver.
from answers.com: http://www.answers.com/pothole&r=67:
2. A *deep* (my emphasis) round hole worn in rock by loose stones whirling in strong rapids or waterfalls.
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From wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pothole:
Pothole (northern Britain) is also a term for a deep cave[1]; from this sense, the derivation potholing is a synonym for caving and a potholer is a caver.
from answers.com: http://www.answers.com/pothole&r=67:
2. A *deep* (my emphasis) round hole worn in rock by loose stones whirling in strong rapids or waterfalls.
Peer comment(s):
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David Russi
: Actually, pothole is the technical term, visit any National Park in Western US and you will hear the term.
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I can't comment on the US, but in the UK people go down potholes - it's almost synonymous with "cave". So the right term depends on Lia's target audience. See also my added links
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kmtext
: I'd say this was the best option, certainly for a UK audience, but I'm not a geologist either.
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Vicky Nash
2 days 14 hrs
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David Russi
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30+ years, stopped counting...
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potholes
potholes
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One example:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.dcnr.state...
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Definitions of pothole on the Web:
* A bowl-shaped depression in a rock surface that has been carved by the whirling action of stones in a stream bed.
www.nps.gov/iceagefloods/app-b.htm
* A bowl-shaped depression carved into the floor of a stream by a long-lived whirlpool carrying sand or gravel.
www2.wwnorton.com/college/geo/earth2/glossary/p.htm
* A smooth-sided deep hole in bedrock formed by the abrasion of pebbles and boulders caught in eddies in streams.
www.maine.gov/doc/nrimc/mgs/explore/bedrock/katahdin/glossa...
* A hole generally deeper than wide, worn into the solid rock at falls and strong rapids by sand, gravel, and stones being spun around by the force of the current. In desert country a pothole often collects water during rains and can contain a variety of small freshwater creatures. ...
www.frankstehno.com/sagemesa/guide/terms/pterms.htm
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About pothole ecology:
http://www.nps.gov/blca/naturescience/potholes.htm
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One example:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.dcnr.state...
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Definitions of pothole on the Web:
* A bowl-shaped depression in a rock surface that has been carved by the whirling action of stones in a stream bed.
www.nps.gov/iceagefloods/app-b.htm
* A bowl-shaped depression carved into the floor of a stream by a long-lived whirlpool carrying sand or gravel.
www2.wwnorton.com/college/geo/earth2/glossary/p.htm
* A smooth-sided deep hole in bedrock formed by the abrasion of pebbles and boulders caught in eddies in streams.
www.maine.gov/doc/nrimc/mgs/explore/bedrock/katahdin/glossa...
* A hole generally deeper than wide, worn into the solid rock at falls and strong rapids by sand, gravel, and stones being spun around by the force of the current. In desert country a pothole often collects water during rains and can contain a variety of small freshwater creatures. ...
www.frankstehno.com/sagemesa/guide/terms/pterms.htm
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About pothole ecology:
http://www.nps.gov/blca/naturescience/potholes.htm
Peer comment(s):
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Jack Dunwell
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Edith Kelly
: brings up memories of pretty bad roads
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Don't words have more than one meaning anymore? Sorry about your bad roads, in this context potholes are actually fascinating ecosystems.
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Marie-Hélène Hayles
: Your last two links both emphasise the deepness of the hole, whereas Lia's link clearly shows a shallow pit. Not that I want to make this personal ;) As I said in my response to you, the best answer clearly depends on the target audience.
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NBot personal: http://www.nps.gov/blca/naturescience/potholes.htm
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Pham Huu Phuoc
: Vietnamese call it as "ổ gà"
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Gary D
: Pot hole is mainly to do with roads, and when you do Potholeing as a sport it is going in cmall holes in the ground that are filled with water. not a good description for it here.
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Rock pools
They are called small rock pools. They are caused by the cooling of lava rock and an air bubble comes to the surface and it bursts to form the rock pool.
We have millions of them all around the coast of Australia in river beds and on mountains. "Rock pools"
A rock pool can be as small as a coin to as big as a car.
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Sorry We do refer to them as rock pools in every day language, but I just looked up the official term they are "Rock Dimples"
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/4/4b/250...
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http://www.cjasper.com/image.jsp?imageId=572&galleryId=5&pos...
Also look at this one
We have millions of them all around the coast of Australia in river beds and on mountains. "Rock pools"
A rock pool can be as small as a coin to as big as a car.
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Sorry We do refer to them as rock pools in every day language, but I just looked up the official term they are "Rock Dimples"
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/4/4b/250...
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http://www.cjasper.com/image.jsp?imageId=572&galleryId=5&pos...
Also look at this one
Peer comment(s):
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LachlanHunter
: Burst air bubble is a novel idea .. but not appropriate to the photo shown I'm afraid.
30 days
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Sorry to dissagree, but I just walked a lava field, and all the rocks have these small bubbles from where they burst when cooling.
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Rachel Fell
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drip holes
not sure that there isn't a more technical term
A partial bat skeleton (long bones and skull) has been found in a gypsum block near the trail, Bottomless Pit, Big Room, 4-5 cm down from the top of the gypsum. The bones look as if they fell into a drip hole or depression in the gypsum and then were covered over with a powdery mixture of gypsum and limestone.
http://www.nps.gov/history/history/online_books/geology/publ...
Chris Beekman walked up to the cave entrance and stopped dead. "Look! Flat-edged pick marks! They go right up the walls to the top. This is a man-made tunnel!" Trying to hold our own, we pointed at the ceiling. "Check that out. It's a hole that only goes partway up and stops. It must have been a drip hole that dried up, proof that erosion..." but Beekman cut us off. "Wait a minute. Take a look at one of your completed holes. If it was 'naturally eroded' what are all those hand and foot holds doing there?"
http://www.saudicaves.com/saudi/qanat.html
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Inside Jewel Cave - Drip Hole
http://picasaweb.google.com/UtherPup/2007SouthDakotaTripDay2...
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driphole. 1. Hole in rock or clay produced
by fast-dripping water. 2. Hollow space
surrounded by precipitated material, such
as the bottom of a stalactite[10
http://www.karstwaters.org/files/glossary.pdf
A partial bat skeleton (long bones and skull) has been found in a gypsum block near the trail, Bottomless Pit, Big Room, 4-5 cm down from the top of the gypsum. The bones look as if they fell into a drip hole or depression in the gypsum and then were covered over with a powdery mixture of gypsum and limestone.
http://www.nps.gov/history/history/online_books/geology/publ...
Chris Beekman walked up to the cave entrance and stopped dead. "Look! Flat-edged pick marks! They go right up the walls to the top. This is a man-made tunnel!" Trying to hold our own, we pointed at the ceiling. "Check that out. It's a hole that only goes partway up and stops. It must have been a drip hole that dried up, proof that erosion..." but Beekman cut us off. "Wait a minute. Take a look at one of your completed holes. If it was 'naturally eroded' what are all those hand and foot holds doing there?"
http://www.saudicaves.com/saudi/qanat.html
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Inside Jewel Cave - Drip Hole
http://picasaweb.google.com/UtherPup/2007SouthDakotaTripDay2...
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driphole. 1. Hole in rock or clay produced
by fast-dripping water. 2. Hollow space
surrounded by precipitated material, such
as the bottom of a stalactite[10
http://www.karstwaters.org/files/glossary.pdf
1 day 5 hrs
rock clefts
Sunken parts on rocks where water collects
30 days
Cupules
The small ones are in English most often called "cupules".
Kamenitza are bigger things , and on limestone. Those shown are on sandstone.
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See: "CUPULES" by Robert G. Bednarik in Rock Art Research, vol. 25, no. 1, pp. 61-100 .. for a big review of these things. They occur worldwide by the millions. Both man-made and natural small cup marks can look very similar.
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I'd love to get a photo of bubble bursts on lava for my photo collection of rock surfaces: but in this case the rock we are commenting on is not lava. It looks like sandstone to me.
Kamenitza are bigger things , and on limestone. Those shown are on sandstone.
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See: "CUPULES" by Robert G. Bednarik in Rock Art Research, vol. 25, no. 1, pp. 61-100 .. for a big review of these things. They occur worldwide by the millions. Both man-made and natural small cup marks can look very similar.
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I'd love to get a photo of bubble bursts on lava for my photo collection of rock surfaces: but in this case the rock we are commenting on is not lava. It looks like sandstone to me.
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