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English translation: within the purview of National Defenc/se

08:16 Jul 13, 2023
French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Government / Politics
French term or phrase: intéressant la Défense Nationale
Public contract relating to the French Ministry of Defence.

“Présentent un caractère de secret de la défense nationale au sens de la présente section les procédés, objets, documents, informations, réseaux informatiques, données informatisées ou fichiers intéressant la Défense nationale qui ont fait l’objet de mesures de classification destinées à restreindre leur diffusion et leur accès."

"Pénétration frauduleuse sur un terrain, dans une construction ou dans un engin ou appareil quelconque affecté à l’autorité militaire ou placé sous son contrôle.
Nuisance à la Défense nationale et entrave au fonctionnement normal des organismes intéressant la Défense Nationale.
Trois ans d’emprisonnement.
..."

These seem to be somewhere between "coming under the jurisdiction of National Defence" (which sounds too specifically legal to my ears) and "involved in National Defence" (which doesn't sound specific enough).

Not sure an expression could be found which might apply to both examples above but obviously that'd be preferable.
Mpoma
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:12
English translation:within the purview of National Defenc/se
Explanation:
.. with a National Defenc/se interest does not work in both instances of données informatisées ou fichiers and organismes > agencies falling within the scope or purview of ND, whilst involving might be better than involved in.
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Adrian MM.
Austria
Grading comment
Went with this in the end, after looking up precisely what "purview" in fact means. It seems to fit this case very well.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +2pertaining to National Defense
Sakshi Garg
4 +1concerning National Security
Bokani Hart
4 +1concerning/relating to the National Defence Forces
AllegroTrans
2within the purview of National Defenc/se
Adrian MM.


Discussion entries: 1





  

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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
pertaining to National Defense


Explanation:
pertaining to National Defense: cette traduction saisit l'idée selon laquelle les processus, objets, documents, informations, réseaux informatiques, données informatisées ou fichiers mentionnés revêtent une importance ou une pertinence dans le contexte de la Défense nationale.

Sakshi Garg
India
Local time: 12:42
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard: Yes, but (as with all these answers) without the capital letters.
4 hrs
agree  Daryo
1 day 4 hrs
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18 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
concerning National Security


Explanation:
Intéresser in the sense of concerning, regarding or affecting

Bokani Hart
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:12
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ben Gaia
46 mins
neutral  philgoddard: It says defence in French, so I don't see any need to use a different word in English.
4 hrs
neutral  AllegroTrans: I agree with Phil and "security" leaves room for ambiguity
5 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
within the purview of National Defenc/se


Explanation:
.. with a National Defenc/se interest does not work in both instances of données informatisées ou fichiers and organismes > agencies falling within the scope or purview of ND, whilst involving might be better than involved in.

Example sentence(s):
  • Defence management considered within a wider scope of national defence and security policy is a process that involves in the first instance state authorities that are responsible for the development of that policy & definition of defence & security budg
  • What are the rules for procurement involving defence and security?

    Reference: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?uri=CELEX:020...
Adrian MM.
Austria
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Went with this in the end, after looking up precisely what "purview" in fact means. It seems to fit this case very well.
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
concerning/relating to the National Defence Forces


Explanation:
I think this is about the "organisms" themselves rather than the "notion" of defence

Qui compose la défense nationale ?
Trois forces composent l'armée française : l'armée de terre, la marine nationale et l'armée de l'air et de l'espace.12 Dec 2022

L'organisation de la défense responsables et acteurs de terrain

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:12
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 49

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Schtroumpf: Mais il faut enlever les "forces". Les documents industriels peuvent être plus "intéressants" que le menu de la semaine du bataillon :-)
2 hrs
neutral  Emmanuella: Il s'agit du fonctionnement des organismes et non des organes ( forces)
3 hrs
neutral  Daryo: not quite "National defence" includes more than just "Forces", like various industries if nothing else.
1 day 1 hr
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