New wrinkle in an old scam
Thread poster: Robert Forstag
Robert Forstag
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Jan 11, 2023

I just received the e-mail that I've cut and pasted below.

This is a variant of a scam that has been around for at least 7 years. At first glance, it might look legitimate (if you can somehow swallow the too-good-to-be-true hourly salary). What is new in this iteration is a photo (not visible below) of the person supposedly in charge of coordinating the hiring.

Not sure if this gentleman is in on the scam, or if his identity has simply been misappropriated. (The same qu
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I just received the e-mail that I've cut and pasted below.

This is a variant of a scam that has been around for at least 7 years. At first glance, it might look legitimate (if you can somehow swallow the too-good-to-be-true hourly salary). What is new in this iteration is a photo (not visible below) of the person supposedly in charge of coordinating the hiring.

Not sure if this gentleman is in on the scam, or if his identity has simply been misappropriated. (The same question applies to the company.)

In any case, this surely is a scam, and I wanted to alert colleagues who may not be familiar with it.

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Dear Applicant,

Happy new year 2023! I hope it’s off to a great start.

I am Wendy Uck from Otsuka-Europe. I am contacting you about your listing (contact information) published online, reviewed, and approved for the position of a Remote Freelance Translation/Interpretation position for (USD) $85/HR by the company HR Department via The American Translators Association Directory.

You've been assigned to Mr. Rodolfo Turenne (HR Coordinator) of Otsuka-Europe. he would be conducting an online interview with you.

COMPANY: Otsuka-Europe.
Job Name: Remote Translation/Interpretation.
Job Type: Part-Time, Full-Time (Freelancer).
Hourly Rate: $85/Hour
Training Rate: $65/Hour.
Location: Work from Home.
Payment will be made via Direct Deposit or Check.

Telegram will be used for the purpose of the interview. If interested, follow the steps below to schedule your interview session:

Please indicate your interest in an interview by reaching Mr. Rodolfo Turenne on Telegram using this link (https://t.me/Rodolfo_Turenne) or Kindly have Telegram downloaded on any of your devices (either Laptop or Phone) and add up the Hr. Coordinator (@Rodolfo_Turenne) and instant message him with his screen name to proceed with the job interview process.

Rodolfo Turenne
Portfolio Management and Project Management Office
t.me

[PHOTO]


Interview Scheduled: Mondays - Saturdays
Venue: Online Via Telegram
Time: 9:00 AM-6:00 PM EST (Flexible)
Training is available.

Your verification code is (Pharma_TRA_11011). This would serve as your identification number throughout the online hiring process. This is online work from home and working hours are flexible.

Your swift and timely response matters a lot as this is an immediate hire position... We look forward to having you on the team.

NOTE: JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND COMPANY BRIEFINGS WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE HR COORDINATOR VIA TELEGRAM.

Regards From,
Wendy Uck,
Copyright © 2023 Otsuka-Europe




[Edited at 2023-01-11 18:54 GMT]
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Patricia Ramos
 
Thomas T. Frost
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Clear scam Jan 11, 2023

It's screaming 'scam' from start to finish. The photo is most likely stolen online. Try to Google it at https://www.google.com/imghp?hl=EN .

Walter Landesman
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Daniel Fernandes
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The shortened link Jan 12, 2023

The shortened link - as we say in Brazil, it's the last nail on the coffin. This is why I would think it's a scam.

Ok, it alone doesn't ring the bell. But I don't want to teach these scammers how to fool us better.


Dalia Nour
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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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. Jan 12, 2023

I wonder why scammers have a clear preference for pharma companies...

 
Thomas T. Frost
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Pharmacies Jan 12, 2023

Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida wrote:

I wonder why scammers have a clear preference for pharma companies...


Maybe the scammers are using tablet computers.


Baran Keki
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writeaway
 
Xiaomeng Wang
Xiaomeng Wang
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Why always telegram Jan 12, 2023

I met so many scams that required to be contacted through telegram, this is a sign for me afterwards.

Josephine Cassar
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Easy Jan 13, 2023

Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida wrote:

I wonder why scammers have a clear preference for pharma companies...


Because our industry knows they are whale clients who pay good money and have endless streams of easy repetitve work.

An "in" with a pharma company can easily be worth $100k+ in business.

They figure translators will be willing to take risks on something rather suspicious-looking for a chance to land such a client.

Quality scams ALWAYS rope marks in by manipulating their greed to outweigh their better judgment.

[Edited at 2023-01-13 17:47 GMT]


Daryo
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Bruce Tuggy
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"This surely is a scam" — but what is the proof? Apr 24, 2023

[quote]Robert Forstag wrote:

I just received the e-mail that I've cut and pasted below.
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In any case, this surely is a scam, and I wanted to alert colleagues who may not be familiar with it.

* * * * * * *

I am Wendy Uck from Otsuka-Europe. I am contacting you about your listing (contact information) published online, reviewed, and approved for the position of a Remote Freelance Translation/Interpretation position for (USD) $85/HR by the company HR Department via The American Translators Association Directory.

______________________

Okay, so what did this scammer actually do that proved that this was a scam? Why is this scam dangerous? More information, please.

You haven't detailed anything that was dishonest or a theft thus far.


 
Mr. Satan (X)
Mr. Satan (X)
English to Indonesian
Omen Apr 25, 2023

Bruce Tuggy wrote:
Okay, so what did this scammer actually do that proved that this was a scam? Why is this scam dangerous? More information, please.


Robert Forstag wrote:
> Payment will be made via Direct Deposit or Check.
> Telegram will be used for the purpose of the interview.
> Your swift and timely response matters a lot as this is an immediate hire position...


The writing is on the wall, mate.


Thomas T. Frost
Robert Forstag
 
Thomas T. Frost
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We can't say for sure until we try Apr 25, 2023

Bruce Tuggy wrote:

Okay, so what did this scammer actually do that proved that this was a scam? Why is this scam dangerous? More information, please.

You haven't detailed anything that was dishonest or a theft thus far.


It will lead to a request for money one way or another. It could be the old cheque prepayment scam. Or they may ask for money for some bogus purpose such as registration with an authority. Or they may ask you to buy certain items, which they will refund – which leads back to the cheque prepayment scam.

There is no 'proof' it's a scam yet. Legitimate companies just don't proceed this way. You need to use your gut feeling.


Robert Forstag
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