Altenrecht

English translation: the body of law relating to the elderly

17:30 Jan 18, 2021
German to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Government / Politics / UK English
German term or phrase: Altenrecht
The sentence is : Dadurch ergibt sich für die gesamte EU eine einheitliche Entwicklung im Bereich der Behindertenpolitik und des Behinderten- und Altenrechts.

Background:
Altenrecht
Die zunehmende Veränderung der Altersstruktur in der Bevölkerung hat in den letzten Jahren zu beachtlichen rechtlichen Konsequenzen geführt. Im Juli 2004 ist das Heimvertragsgesetz, das die privatrechtliche Beziehung zwischen Heimträger und BewohnerInnen im Konsumentenschutzgesetz regelt, in Kraft treten. Seit Juli 2005 wird darüber hinaus die Möglichkeit freiheitsbeschränkender Maßnahmen im Heimaufenthaltsgesetz geregelt. Mit dem Sachwalterrechts-Änderungsgesetz 2006 wurden umfassende Änderungen im Sachwalterrecht vorgenommen und Regelungen für Vorsorgevollmacht und Angehörigenvertretung geschaffen. Neben diesen Rechtsgebieten werden in der Vorlesung andere wichtige Bereiche des Altenrechts behandelt, das eine typische Mischmaterie zwischen privatem (zB Heimvertragsrecht, Persönlichkeitsrecht) und öffentlichem (zB Pflegegeld, Sozialhilfe) Recht darstellt.

Law regarding old people. It is a new area being defined, so probably no official translation yet (that I can find)
Wendy Lewin
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:47
English translation:the body of law relating to the elderly
Explanation:
1) This cannot be done in EN with a snappy two-word phrase, IMO
2) Re 'Elder(ly) law', the adjective applies to the noun in EN, i.e. law that is not recent
3) Brevity is generally a virtue but takes second place to clarity in legal contexts
4) It's not just one law but a 'body of law'. See examples here:
https://www.google.com/search?q="body of law relating to"&oq...

das Behinderten- und Altenrecht
the body of law relating to the disabled and the elderly

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'regarding' or 'relating to'?

http://www.justinhughes.ie/law-relating-to-the-elderly
https://www.russell-cooke.co.uk/familyandinheritedwealthdisp...
https://www.ramsdens.co.uk/team/mike-roberts
https://deanscourt.co.uk/barristerPDF?entryId=279
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Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:47
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Summary of answers provided
5 +2Elder Law
Elisabeth Moser
3 +4law/legislation governing rights for the elderly/senior citizens
David Hollywood
4 +2the body of law relating to the elderly
Lancashireman
3 +1UK: law relating to the old and infirm; Senior Citizen legislation
Adrian MM.
Summary of reference entries provided
David Hollywood
The Elders
Gordon Matthews

Discussion entries: 8





  

Answers


8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Elder Law


Explanation:
Elderly Law - Nash & Co Solicitors Solicitors LLP, Plymouth, UKnash.co.uk › Helping You
Elderly Law. By 2024 more than one in four of us will be over 60 and a girl born today has a 50% likelihood of living for 100 years. Get in Touch. “In the UK ...

Elisabeth Moser
United States
Local time: 06:47
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  AllegroTrans: This sounds distinctly like Engleutsch to my ears // OK it seems to work in the US but sounds strange to my UK ears!
5 mins
  -> perhaps you should google it and when my mom was ill i Needed an Elder Law Att. to get her out of the hospital

agree  philgoddard: This is fine. "Elder law" seems to be mostly US, though that may be because I'm using US Google. "Elderly" is OK on either side of the pond.
13 mins

agree  Brent Sørensen: https://books.google.de/books?id=0t4iBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA114&dq=Al...
13 mins

agree  Daniel Arnold (X)
1 day 2 hrs

disagree  Gordon Matthews: This really doesn't work in the UK. The Elders are a group of independent global leaders working for peace and human rights. See https://theelders.org/
1 day 15 hrs
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33 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
the body of law relating to the elderly


Explanation:
1) This cannot be done in EN with a snappy two-word phrase, IMO
2) Re 'Elder(ly) law', the adjective applies to the noun in EN, i.e. law that is not recent
3) Brevity is generally a virtue but takes second place to clarity in legal contexts
4) It's not just one law but a 'body of law'. See examples here:
https://www.google.com/search?q="body of law relating to"&oq...

das Behinderten- und Altenrecht
the body of law relating to the disabled and the elderly

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Note added at 1 hr (2021-01-18 18:40:33 GMT)
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'regarding' or 'relating to'?

http://www.justinhughes.ie/law-relating-to-the-elderly
https://www.russell-cooke.co.uk/familyandinheritedwealthdisp...
https://www.ramsdens.co.uk/team/mike-roberts
https://deanscourt.co.uk/barristerPDF?entryId=279


Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:47
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 208
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you, my thoughts entirely


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  AllegroTrans: Or simply law relating to the elderly (law uncapitalised to mean law in general and not a specific Law)
1 day 8 hrs
  -> Thanks. DH seems to be the new runaway leader with 'legislation governing'.

agree  philgoddard: This is fine if you don't like "elder law".
2 days 1 hr
  -> Thanks. Also for your observation on 'rights' (below).
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
AUT > Altenrecht
UK: law relating to the old and infirm; Senior Citizen legislation


Explanation:
Sachwalter connotes to me Austria - that in m experience has more than it fair share of alte Schachteln and a receiver - now known in E+W as a High Court Deputy - appinted to manage the affairs of the old *and infirm*.

Senior Citizens if you will.

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... that, in my experience, has more than its fair share of 'alte Schachteln' and a receiver - now known in E+W as a Court of Protection Deputy - appointed ....

Example sentence(s):
  • People in the United States who are more than sixty years of age are commonly referred to as senior citizens or seniors.
  • This Act shall be known as the "Expanded Senior Citizens Act of 2003."

    Reference: http://www.patientenanwalt.com/download/RechtlicheInformatio...
    Reference: http://www.linguee.com/english-german/translation/the+old+an...
Adrian MM.
Austria
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  AllegroTrans: "the elderly" for "Behinderten" (which was not part of the question)
1 day 3 hrs
  -> Thanks, Chris. I sense that Elder Law is US Am. + Can., though such 'Denglish' may well be creeping into E+W usage where Anglo-Am.-Can. Law Firms are so influenced, cf. franchise once meaning the right to vote BTW, 'handicapped persons' for Behinderten.
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
law/legislation governing rights for the elderly/senior citizens


Explanation:
maybe

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Elder Law sounds awful but have been suprised before

David Hollywood
Local time: 07:47
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 59

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  AllegroTrans: Yes, we simply would not say Elder Law "over here"' I would leave out "legislation"
10 hrs

agree  Johanna Timm, PhD: in Canada: "legislation governing seniors care"https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/health/accessing-health-c...
20 hrs

agree  Gordon Matthews: Yes, although I would say "rights of..." rather than "rights for..."
1 day 5 hrs

agree  Ventnai
1 day 7 hrs

neutral  Lancashireman: So would you say that 'law' and 'legislation' are interchangeable? And is it only 'rights' that are covered (or, as you put it, 'governed')?
1 day 9 hrs

neutral  philgoddard: It's not just about rights. It includes things like wills and guardianship.
1 day 15 hrs
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Reference comments


10 hrs
Reference

Reference information:
Elder law is an area of legal practice that specializes on issues that affect the aging population. The purpose of elder law planning is to prepare the elderly ...

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boring and maybe there's a snappier way to go

David Hollywood
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 59

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
neutral  AllegroTrans: Not for UK, sounds like something from Anglo-Saxon times
10 hrs
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1 day 15 hrs peer agreement (net): +2
Reference: The Elders

Reference information:
This group of independent global leaders working together for peace and human rights was founded by Nelson Mandela in 2007. The current chair is Mary Robinson, former President of the Republic of Ireland.


    Reference: http://theelders.org/
Gordon Matthews
Germany
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  AllegroTrans: They are also a species of tree
3 hrs
neutral  philgoddard: They don't have a monopoly on the use of this word.
9 hrs
agree  Lancashireman: With you on 'Elder'. Do you think that 'Recht' in this context refers to the 'rights' of the elderly? A disenfranchised group in society? Dr Timm has also signed up to this version, rephrasing 'rights' as 'care'. What's your opinion on that?
10 hrs
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